Comments on: just de-lovely, and del.icio.us http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/ free software, free culture, free association Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:29:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Scott Carpenter http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-17 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:53:07 +0000 http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-17 Thanks, Chris. Scuttle looks interesting also. I registered but haven't received a verification email yet. It's just been a few minutes. (Unlike the hold up of your post all day in moderation! I should change the option to allow more links before holding...) I agree that is an interesting O'Reilly link -- I've seen it before but only scanned it. It deserves more thought and discussion. I'm interested in the idea myself of how to use free software with applications that run on web servers. What does that mean? I think as important as the software itself is the data -- as long as the data and the APIs are free, then anyone else can replicate a service if need be. (And by APIs being free, I mean there isn't some silly patent saying that someone else can't access the data in the same way.) Just an offhand thought -- I need to read what other smarter people than me are saying about it, including a more careful read of that post and associated discussion. Otis: I registered for Simpy. The sign-up and importing of my del.icio.us bookmarks was a simp :-) I think the tag cloud looks great. I look forward to experimenting with it and then maybe I'll post a follow-up on both Simpy and Scuttle. (Talk about a wealth of choices.) Independent of a specific bookmarking site, I'm thinking about something that I probably shouldn't get too hung up on, and that's my tag names. How do I want to handle names with more than one word? Do I want free_software or free-software or freesoftware? I'm still learning about this stuff so I don't know if this is available already, but what I'd like to do is have aliases, so if I use free_software for my own tags, I could still associate it with freesoftware and free-software so that I'd match up with the same classifications as others. I suspect I'm thinking about it too much. Thanks, Chris. Scuttle looks interesting also. I registered but haven’t received a verification email yet. It’s just been a few minutes. (Unlike the hold up of your post all day in moderation! I should change the option to allow more links before holding…)

I agree that is an interesting O’Reilly link — I’ve seen it before but only scanned it. It deserves more thought and discussion. I’m interested in the idea myself of how to use free software with applications that run on web servers. What does that mean? I think as important as the software itself is the data — as long as the data and the APIs are free, then anyone else can replicate a service if need be. (And by APIs being free, I mean there isn’t some silly patent saying that someone else can’t access the data in the same way.) Just an offhand thought — I need to read what other smarter people than me are saying about it, including a more careful read of that post and associated discussion.

Otis: I registered for Simpy. The sign-up and importing of my del.icio.us bookmarks was a simp :-) I think the tag cloud looks great. I look forward to experimenting with it and then maybe I’ll post a follow-up on both Simpy and Scuttle. (Talk about a wealth of choices.)

Independent of a specific bookmarking site, I’m thinking about something that I probably shouldn’t get too hung up on, and that’s my tag names. How do I want to handle names with more than one word? Do I want free_software or free-software or freesoftware? I’m still learning about this stuff so I don’t know if this is available already, but what I’d like to do is have aliases, so if I use free_software for my own tags, I could still associate it with freesoftware and free-software so that I’d match up with the same classifications as others.

I suspect I’m thinking about it too much.

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by: Chris Harvey http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-16 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:02:17 +0000 http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-16 I use <a href="http://scuttle.org" rel="nofollow">Scuttle</a>, its free software. <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/" rel="nofollow">Here’s the code</a>, here’s the <a href="http://scuttle.org/wiki/doku.php?id=firefox_extension" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">FF Scuttle extension</a>. <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/08/open_source_licenses_are_obsol.html" rel="nofollow">Something interesting to think about with Web services</a>. I use Scuttle, its free software.

Here’s the code, here’s the FF Scuttle extension.

Something interesting to think about with Web services.

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by: Scott Carpenter http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-15 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:38:33 +0000 http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-15 <p>Hi, Otis! Thank you very much for visiting and for your comment. It’s good to hear that Simpy is free. I had looked around but didn’t see this on the ‘about’ or ‘terms and conditions’ pages, and I discovered that searching with Google for site del.icio.us or site simpy.com for things like gpl and license returns a lot of user pages.</p> <p>Looking again at the site, I see there is a Firefox extension so I think I will give it a try in parallel with del.icio.us and report my results. (Although unfortunately, grim duty calls and it’s off to the day job now.)</p> <p>(And my comments are broken somehow -- I meant to mention that Simpy needs a Wikipedia page but couldn’t get it to post the way I wrote it. Weird. But will have to wait to fix.)</p> Hi, Otis! Thank you very much for visiting and for your comment. It’s good to hear that Simpy is free. I had looked around but didn’t see this on the ‘about’ or ‘terms and conditions’ pages, and I discovered that searching with Google for site del.icio.us or site simpy.com for things like gpl and license returns a lot of user pages.

Looking again at the site, I see there is a Firefox extension so I think I will give it a try in parallel with del.icio.us and report my results. (Although unfortunately, grim duty calls and it’s off to the day job now.)

(And my comments are broken somehow — I meant to mention that Simpy needs a Wikipedia page but couldn’t get it to post the way I wrote it. Weird. But will have to wait to fix.)

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by: Otis Gospodnetic http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-14 Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:39:33 +0000 http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2006/08/13/just-de-lovely-and-delicious/#comment-14 Wow, that's some mighty long post! <a href="http://www.simpy.com/" rel="nofollow">Simpy</a> is absolutely free. There is 1 person behind it (me), not a corporation, not VCs. I'm actually heavily involved in a few open source projects, so I understand "free" in its various flavours. :) Not only is Simpy free, I actually am giving its users the opportunity to earn a bit of money through AdSense (more about it can be found on <a href="http://blog.simpy.com/" rel="nofollow">Simpy's blog</a> (search for adsense). I hope you can check Simpy out and review it. Wow, that’s some mighty long post! Simpy is absolutely free. There is 1 person behind it (me), not a corporation, not VCs. I’m actually heavily involved in a few open source projects, so I understand “free” in its various flavours. :)

Not only is Simpy free, I actually am giving its users the opportunity to earn a bit of money through AdSense (more about it can be found on Simpy’s blog (search for adsense).
I hope you can check Simpy out and review it.

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